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Majority Of Pregnant Women Say No To Swine Flu Shot

Posted by Jane Akre
Tuesday, October 27, 2009 10:22 PM EST
Category: Protecting Your Family
Tags: Swine Flu, Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, H1N1, Influenza, Public Health, Pregnancy Vaccine

One out of 4 women plans to get a swine flu shot according to Harris Interactive poll.


IMAGE SOURCE: iStockphoto / mom and newborn / author: iDerLander 

Swine Flu Shot Too New

Pregnant woman are wary of the swine flu shot, according to a new survey.

The survey by Harris Interactive of 668 pregnant women and mothers of children under the age of two, shows only about one woman out of four plan to get the H1N1 or swine flu shot, despite recommendations to do so.

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) and the American College of Obstetrics and Gynecology both recommend pregnant women and new mothers be vaccinated.

That’s because pregnant women are up to four times more likely to be hospitalized for complications from swine flu compared to the general population, reports the CDC.

Though the reasons for that are uncertain, it is speculated that a reduction in lung capacity during pregnancy may make respiratory diseases more dangerous.

"With H1N1 being the dominant influenza virus circulating so far this year, it is vital that all pregnant women get their seasonal and H1N1 flu shots as soon as possible," says Ashley Roman, MD, clinical assistant professor of obstetrics and gynecology at New York University School of Medicine and assistant clinical professor at Yale University, in a news release, reported by WebMD.

The CDC says pregnant women can get thimerosal-preserved or non-preserved vaccine and insists there is no evidence that thimerosal is harmful to a pregnant woman or fetus. Federal health officials repeatedly assure pregnant women despite the fact that the cause of the rising numbers of children with autism, now at one in 100, remains a mystery.

A single-dose vial will deliver a thimerosal-free form of the vaccine while multi-dose vials are preserved with the mercury-based preservative.

Pregnant women are not advised to get the live virus nasal spray, FluMist made by MedImmune, as it has not been tested in pregnant women.

Ironically, 43 percent of pregnant women would get and plan to get a seasonal flu shot but only 27 percent say the same about the swine flu shot. The CDC insists they are made the same way but with different seasonal viruses.

Not Tested

The main concern expressed – the swine flu shot had not been adequately tested.

The swine flu formulations were created this spring by five drug manufacturers after the swine flu was upgraded to a pandemic and federal health officials feared a dangerous flu season.

In July, President Obama and Congress earmarked $1.25 billion for the development of a swine flu vaccine, part of the $7.65 billion vaccination development program.

Three months later, the five formulations were made available and the federal government offered drug makers immunity from any liability under the National Vaccine Injury Compensation Program (VICP).

Pregnant women can:

Wash their hands with soap and water and often. An alcohol-based hand rub also kills the virus.

Avoid touching your eyes, nose, or mouth.

Try to avoid close contact with sick people.

For a woman with the flu, the CDC recommends she receive Tamiflu, an antiviral, or Renenza, which prevent viruses from making more flu virus in your body.

The Harris Interactive survey was paid for by CSL Biotherapies, which produces one flu vaccine and carried out by the HealthyWomen and the Association of Women’s Health, Obstetric and Neonatal Nurses.

IB News wanted to know if that gives an appearance of a conflict of interest?

“Obviously they have an interest to make sure people understand complications from the flu,” said Marisa Rainsberger, media contact for the National Women’s Health Resource Center to IB News.

“We work with corporate partners to develop material. We are not promoting any product, we are interested in educating the public,” she continued.

The groups have launched a “Flu-Free and A Mom-to-Be Protect Yourself, Protect Your Baby – Get Your Flu Shots!” campaign. #


Posted by Stan Lippmann
Monday, November 02, 2009 1:28 PM EST

Who are you people? No evidence mercury is bad for you? Shame on you, I'll see if I can figure out who you really are.

Posted by Stan Lippmann
Monday, November 02, 2009 1:35 PM EST

I looked you up on Wikipedia, and I'm puzzled, why would to go to all the trouble of resisting RBGH and now push mercury into fetuses and babies arms. I'd like you to post an apology here.

Anonymous User
Posted by Barbara Lombardi
Monday, November 02, 2009 2:57 PM EST

Mr. Lippman, I read through Jane's blog 3 times looking for where she was "pushing mercury" into fetuses and babies arms and found nothing but a balanced blog. She quoted WebMd and the CDC as recommending that pregnant women be immunized but makes no personal recommendations. Would I be correct in assuming that you are the author of, "The Law of Vaccination-Toward Radical Reform'? Pregnant women, parents, and those in the higher risk groups need to be informed of the benefits and risks of the H1N1 vaccine. I believe Jane's blog helped to do that.

Posted by Stan Lippmann
Monday, November 02, 2009 3:14 PM EST

Jane is not a scientist or doctor, so I forgive her for believing in what the experts tell her to some degree, though she should know better after what she has been through. I encourage you to read my paper, I'm happy to discuss it. Jane and just about everyone else is just parroting what they are being told by the authorities, but what if the authorities are not placing the public health as the foremost concern? That's why we have a free press, so that Jane can investigate, dig for the truth, at which point she would agree with my point of view since it is the truth. By just pushing the goverment line, pregnant women, fetuses and infants will get the mercury, Jane's just not mentioning or quoting an absurd lie that mercury is not bad for you has the effect of promoting more mass poisoning.

Anonymous User
Posted by Barbara Lombardi
Monday, November 02, 2009 4:04 PM EST

Mr. Lippmann, Are you a scientist or a doctor?

Posted by Jane Akre
Monday, November 02, 2009 6:53 PM EST

You are trying my patience.

I go wwaayyy out of my way to not parrot the party line about thimerosal not being proven to hurt anyone. Quite the opposite- IB News is loaded with balance and the other POV.

In fact if you would calm down and read the above graph you would see it says:

"The CDC says pregnant women can get thimerosal- preserved or non-preserved vaccine and insists there is no evidence that thimerosal is harmful to a pregnant woman or fetus.

"Federal health officials repeatedly assure pregnant women despite the fact that the cause of the rising numbers of children with autism, now at one in 100, remains a mystery."

I added that mystery about thimerosal because the federal assurances need balance. They can't make assurances if they don't know what DOES cause autism. Even Bernadette Healy does not dismiss the vaccine additive possibility.

Stan - You have no idea about my professional background. So thanks for the comments and do some keyword searches and you will see IB News covers Dr. Joseph Mercola, Barbara Loe Fisher, Susan Lark, and adds their POV to the mix. Fair and balanced you know.

Stay well-
Jane Akre
News Editor
IB News

Anonymous User
Posted by Btok
Tuesday, November 03, 2009 12:52 AM EST

This is a viscious circle we have been backed into, people are dieing of the swine flu and flu as well as the fact that there are people dieing and being injured from vaccinations!
Something very wrong and suspicous is happening around the world! I discovered this news story last night and believe we need quality law enforcement and forensic professionals to deeply and thoroughly investigate this virus and vaccine?
Here is the news story I discovered: LINK

Boy Rushed To Hospital After Swine Flu Jab

The safety of Northern Ireland’s swine flu vaccination programme was called into question today by the parent of a young special needs pupil who ended up in hospital just hours after getting the jab.
Anne Marie Fletcher said she feared her 15-year-old son Rhys was going to die as she rushed him to hospital less than 24 hours after receiving the swine flu vaccine.
The teenager fell seriously ill after receiving the injection, along with thousands of other pupils across Northern Ireland last Friday. He was later diagnosed with swine flu.
“My husband drove us to Antrim (Area Hospital) and I sat in the back with Rhys,” she told the Belfast Telegraph.
“By this stage he was going into spasms. He couldn’t bend his fingers. I was absolutely terrified.
“He was rambling and becoming incoherent. I honestly thought he was going to die in the back of the car.
Read more: LINK #ixzz0VfGrkLfF

Take a look st this highly acclaimed video, "Fall of The Republic" ( The Obama Presidency ) that has in less than ten days received over 1,500,000 views! Learn what the Governments and the United Nations have planned for you, your family and friends!

Posted by Stan Lippmann
Tuesday, November 03, 2009 1:53 PM EST

Like just about everyone else in this culture, you seem to have a problem understanding the concept of bioethics and logic. I know what I am talking about, I know the effect of what you are doing is potentially harmful to people, so I have no choice but to criticize you under my own code of ethics. Do you really think it's your job as a journalist to give all points of view, or to investigate and expose corruption in the government? We are not talking about movie reviews. We are talking about advice you parrot just because it's one of the point of views, even if it is deadly wrong. If you know that it's deadly wrong, how could you parrot it without clear disqualification. If you honestly don't know whether someone is really safer with or without the vaccine, you should read my paper or go to the library yourself, where you would find that in general, when they attenuate a vaccine, they only attenuate the overt symptoms, not the odds of randomly killing you, so the vaccine program actually promotes death implicitly. This goes for most vaccines. One can argue about polio, but that's about it.

Anonymous User
Posted by Barbara Lombardi
Tuesday, November 03, 2009 2:20 PM EST

Mr. Lippmann, Again....are you a scientist or doctor?

Anonymous User
Posted by Stan Lippmann
Tuesday, November 03, 2009 3:25 PM EST

I have a doctorate in physics (JHU 1989) and and a doctorate in law (UW 1998). I am also a bona fide Vaccine Injury Victim, but the $30,000 they gave me went straight to the lawyers, so I got nothing for the arthritis I sit with now. I have run for office 11 times on an anti-vaccine platform (1997 Mayor of Seattle, 1998,2002,2004 7th Congressional District, 1999,2001,2006,2007 Seattle City Council, 2000 Attorney General, 2003,2005 Monorail Board, 2009 King County Executive.) I figured sooner or later people would wake up to the truth, and they are now waking up at an exponentially growing rate. Apparently, the European publics are further advanced than we are here, with very large majorities of the public calling BS on this vaccine program. I finally am beginning to feel like I have accomplished something great, and if I die now I will be like the Salmon who made it upstream. Also at an accelerating rate, I feel very confident in what I am saying, and the positive re-inforcement of my worldview by unfolding events quickens.

Anonymous User
Posted by Stan Lippmann
Tuesday, November 03, 2009 3:31 PM EST

One more thing, at one of the NVIC conferences, I heard reports on the EPA and mercury, which I still use as my primary mental reference on this topic. Back then as now, there is a cleavage within the anti-vaccine movement, those like Barbara who compromise for the sake of credibility, and those like me, who I feel have superior knowledge and strategy, but lack ovaries and hysteria. So she's never cared about adult vicitms properly, and in the end I will wind up with more credibility than her (and you).

Anonymous User
Posted by Barbara Lombardi
Tuesday, November 03, 2009 3:35 PM EST

Mr. Lippmann, I understand the passion in your anti-vaccine stance. Which vaccine was it that injured you if I may ask? As a parent, I have struggled with the decision to vaccinate my own daughters.

Anonymous User
Posted by Barbara Lombardi
Tuesday, November 03, 2009 4:39 PM EST

Mr. Lippmann, I admit I do have ovaries but lack hysteria as you have noted. My original question to you was to ask where Jane was "pushing mercury" since her blog was nothing more than a news item, balanced and unbiased. You were correct in stating that Jane is neither a scientist or a doctor, but neither are you. I have tried to have an intelligent conversation with you on the merits of the topic but it seems that you are the hysterical one. What evidence do you have that you were not already afflicted with arthritis before receiving whatever the vaccine was that you are blaming it on? I have arthritis too but I'm blaming my mother! Genes, have you heard of them?

Anonymous User
Posted by Stan Lippmann
Tuesday, November 03, 2009 5:31 PM EST

I am not hysterical, I suggest you re-read what I wrote, I believe I did answer your question. I don't know what you mean I'm not a scientist, I have fifty publications in leading journals such as Astrophysical Journal, Physical Review, Nuclear Fusion. The problem in general is trust in expert opinion. If you implying I'm not a scientist in the sense that this subject was not my area of expertise in graduate school, then I remind you that the best physicist I know happens to have gone to medical school rather that graduate school in physics. Just like homeschooled students do better, having not been in professional biomedicine earlier in my career is a virtue, since I'm not thinking about my place in the Matrix. I was given a whole ten dose vial of MMR after they locked me out of the Law School registration computer. It was Hillary's usurpation as payback to Merck. The Clintons, Bushes, and Obamas are all war criminals as far as I'm concerned.

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